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I'm okay with using the D pad to do tricks. I just don't want to use the L button to use the items. It's fine, it's not that big of a deal.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

I'm telling ya, even Epic Games realizes that the fall of PC gaming as you know it is coming. If Spore is a failure, get ready for some big changes. I personally think all those Flash based web games are junk, but you have no idea the people these things are bringing it. Club Penguin is bigger than you think, and you probably don't even know what it is. But guess what? It's making more money than Unreal Tourney 3 on PC, that's for damn sure.

Also for a minute, lets bring in the Mac crowd. Gaming on the Mac just doesn't exist. But where does gaming exist on a Mac? Fucking Club Penguin, with the rest of the PC community.

edit: Unless gaming on a Mac has changed since all the intel business.

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I don't care of Spore fails or succeeds. I just want to play some Starcraft 2.

Those flash games bring in a lot of money because they take a lot less effort to produce and appeals to a large casual group of people. I guess economically, it makes a lot of sense. Games like Starcraft and UT are not geared towards the casual gamer.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

You're right, those games aren't aimed at those players. Those games are however, aimed at a hardcore niche group of people who are either A) Moving onto consoles thanks to a machine like the 360 bridging that gap of hardcore players, or B) Flat out stealing it. It's just not a viable market, and it's shrinking each day.

And you're going to see an amazing example of web based stuff Quake 3 Arena web version comes out. I think that game is going to explode to epic proportions.

You know eventually consoles are just going to be entertainment PCs. They should just allow people to upgrade the processors, RAM, and video card at their leisure.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

that would cause some problems

If they break it, it's their own fault. They can just go get another one. They don't have to upgrade it but if they choose to, they are doing it on their own free will. The games will have custom settings depending on your hardware capabilities. But it will be guaranteed to run on the minimum settings with what came with the console.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

Yeah, as soon as they allow that, it's the moment when everything goes to hell again and everyone is back at square one. It's nice to have standards. I like knowing that when I buy a Wii, PS3, or whatever, that the system is going to play every single game I buy for it over the course of the next 5 or 6 years. The moment you let people upgrade their RAM or what have you is when you lose that.

one of the main reasons I decided to get a console was because it was standardized....and i knew that i wouldn't have to worry about having to upgrade to play the latest.

I dont like computer games that much because
A my computer cant run half of them
B I cant be on AIM at the same time
C they take up all your friggin space.

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I find it hilarious that you use Epic as an example seeing as they hate the Wii and you love it.
In some interview one of their top guys was asked if they would be making any Wii games and he said "We're trying to move gaming forwards not backwards."

That's pretty brutal.

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Well regardless, Epic has a pretty solid reputation as far as making games goes and they're shifting their focus from PC gaming to the 360 and PS3.

Yep I got UC3 on my pc and it isn't very good. (I got the package so at least I have 2004)

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I do kind of want to check out The World Ends With You at some point in the near future. However, I've pretty much resolved myself to play only GTA4 and Mario Kart until that little red countdown up there says 0 Days 0 Hours 0 Min 0 sec.

It might be a summertime purchase when I'm down the shore a lot and relying on handhelds for my fix.

I don't know anything about that one. Do you have a link to a video or some info?

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Not sure why you find that hilarious. I love the Wii, but I also really like my PS3 and will eventually get to like my 360. Me liking the Wii has nothing to do with Epic and their stance on the PC industry. They've gone out and said that the market is dying and that their future is in the (mainly) 360 and PS3.

Now, as for their comments on the Wii, I could give a shit what they say about it. Epic has been around for a very long time, and aside from their technology that they lend out to people, what have they done? Gears of War is their big crowning achievement, and as far as I'm concerned their one game doesn't prove anything to me as far as being a brilliant developer. I was never into Unreal Tourney, and as it turns out, seems like not many people are into the series anymore considering the latest UT was pretty much a bomb. UT comes out on the 360 soon, but I highly doubt people are going to migrate from Halo 3 and CoD4 to UT. So Epic has been around for ages and their essentially a two hit wonder. Look into their past and what have they done? Shitty shareware computer games like the totally lame ass Jazz the Jack Rabbit. (And I know its lame because I bought it back in the day). Long story shot, Epic likes to talk a lot of shit, but they have no room to talk anything. When they start to create entire industries and new avenues for gaming, then I'll listen to their Nintendo smack talk. Considering their history, they have nothing on Nintendo. Nothing.

On a side, I went over to TRU yesterday and snagged 360 component cables and Perfect Dark Zero for 13 bucks total. PDZ was already marked down to 5 bucks, and when I got to the register they knocked off an additional 20%. The cables were marked down to 10 and they also knocked 20% off that too. TRU usually has some sweet deals, and I found plenty of cool stuff for cheap there in the past. I also took a walk over to Gamestop (my car was getting worked on at a Sears thats in the area so I had time to kill) and snagged The Castlevania Adventure for the original Gameboy for 2 dollars. Pretty sure all their GB games are finally like 50% off and I saw Ninja Gaiden: Shadow, Battletoads, and a few others. Might have to go back and snatch them up for next to nothing.

So the fact that a "two hit wonder" gaming company, who make shitty games, says the PC gaming industry is dead is enough to convince you?

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-- He's dead, all right.
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- You were supposed to fire up. _We_ both fired _up_.

Hahaha, you got me. I used them as an example because they have always been a PC centric developer until recently. But I guess if it were a company like Valve saying that it would be more meaningful.

There is always going to be life on the PC, but things are going to change. It also didn't help that Microsoft kind of splintered PC gaming there for a bit with their whole Games for Vista/Windows malarkey they had going on there. Are they still forcing that whole Games for Windows thing too?

If anything, Steam is probably the best thing to happen to PC gaming in a long while. I think things would be even worse if not for Steam.

Me and my friends played Perfect Dark Zero a lot when 360 launched. However, it is a TERRIBLE game.

I downloaded the demo back when I first got the 360 (because believe it or not, back then there actually wasn't much to play on it) and I was less than impressed. It was a pretty stale shooter.

I imagine it's not good (and I hated the original PD to be quite honest) but I felt the need to at least own a 360 game, and for 4 dollars who cares.

I won a Xbox 360 120GB HDD (new) off ebay for $80 yesterday. Some guy bought a replacement elite and didn't need the 2nd HDD so he auctioned it off. So I got the HDD for the price it should be, and I didn't have to give Microsoft any money directly in the process.