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No, but he might be called a reader.

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Elaine: Well, how am I gonna know what movies to see?
Video store employee: We have a wide variety of Thark Picks.
Elaine: Thark's trash.
Video store employee: I'm Thark.
Elaine: [embarassed] Hi.

Snap, crackle and pop. Haha.

I actually did think about that after I posted it. So I guess you successfully deflated my argument. But I still don't like the term gamer.

HAHAHAHA READER. ZING!

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

Actually, the term hardcore just has a lot of definitions. There are other words that are relative and subjective. The english language is not black and white.

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Those definitions are usually very distinct from each other though, which means it's very easy to tell what form of the word you're using.

and even the ones that have 2 or 3 similar meanings there is a kind of cohesion and distinction between them to figure out what's going on.

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Perhaps hardcore just needs more specific qualifiers added to them than just plain "gamer". Like hardcore CS player. But then again, what some people might consider hardcore, other would not. That being said, I don't think any of us are hardcore CS players. At least not anymore. I guess we're more like retired-hardcore casual CSers. haha

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

bwahaha, in 3 sentences you settled the sentiment of how I feel about the whole hardcore/casual thing haha.

When did simply telling people "I really like videogames" go out of style?

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Yes, and in every one of your examples it is implied that they have played enough to be considered 'hardcore gamers'. Anyone who has a large game collection, plays zuma 6 hours a day, or can kick ass at Counter-strike obviously has put a great deal of time in the medium. The reason people don't like to label themselves as such is because there is a stigma attached to the word at this point from obnoxious people who equate hardcore with better.

It's all about the elitism.

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I'm not going to get into implicature here. Now we're stepping into the realm of dissertation material.

In the most basic of ways I'd say you are on to something, but I'm not convinced. There's something more specific to it then just playing games a lot, it would come down to literally documenting cases of when people use the word and ask them what they meant by it.

I mean now we're going into the implicature beneath implicature and all that it entails.

I would also say you don't need to play a lot of videogames to be hardcore either. There's tons of definitions that even I've laid out that leave openings for not playing TONS.

Collecting games, or even tuning up a rig doesn't necessarily mean that you play tons of games. Beating the shit out of a game doesn't mean you sink tons of hours into it, you could just be a natural at it, or it could be an accumulation of years of playing it for a few hours here and a few hours there.

Then there are people like me who love watching game vids, and who love reading game history, or even reading old strategy guides. I know a ton of shit about games I've never played.

What if you're hardcore because you just like keeping up with industry news, or because you made a website devoted to videogames? Doesn't mean you sink a lot of time in it.

True, in many cases people do sink a lot of time into games, but the point is this word is such that there's nothing that is precise with it.

And even with the case of time, are you hardcore if you're playing 12 hours a day? or is it something like you play videogames 3 hours a day but you've done it for X amount of years? Is it many games or just one game that you put this time into? Or is it just some total number of hours in ones life that have to be devoted to games, like if I spend at least 5,000 hours of my life then am I hardcore?

See there's ambiguity, and then there's this shit.

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I have no problem with someone saying "I really like videogames" or "I'm a hardcore gamer". They both quantify your enjoyment of the media to the same extent. The only difference is that 'hardcore gamer' implies that you actually play the games. It just that so many people use the term 'hardcore gamer' as a sign of nerd supremacy, that using it at all now indicates that you feel that way too. This is what I have issue with.

*edited to remove misplaced belittlement to baltar.

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This thread is ridiculous.

If I like it, I like it. If you don't like what I like, then fuck you. That's how I see it.

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*Edited since Nick edited his*

Which means I have nothing left in this goddamn post to say!

Goddamn Nate you made me type out all that shit just so I'd have to delete it all, you are a formidable opponent.

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OMG, he is at it again. Someone get the hose!!!!!

Problem's solved skipper.

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I saw your post Superman. I was about to call you the king of the two sentence spaces.

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I don't know exactly what you mean by that... I'll take it as a compliment I guess.

At the same time I was happy with my reply and actually have it saved in a document titled BALTAR'S WRATH! Just in case shit gets crazy again.

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"Collecting games, or even tuning up a rig doesn't necessarily mean that you play tons of games. Beating the shit out of a game doesn't mean you sink tons of hours into it, you could just be a natural at it, or it could be an accumulation of years of playing it for a few hours here and a few hours there.

Then there are people like me who love watching game vids, and who love reading game history, or even reading old strategy guides. I know a ton of shit about games I've never played."

See above.

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Nick must be a ninja, I didn't even see him post anything!

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This thread is HARDCORRRREEEEEE.

This thread got nuts.

You're not hardcore, unless you live hardcore!!

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- Oh, great. You killed the invisible swordsman!
-- He's dead, all right.
--- How was I supposed to know where he was?
- You were supposed to fire up. _We_ both fired _up_.

hahaha, I instigated a riot.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "

... fixed

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I can't wait for this week's BAC recap hahaha.

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"If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. "