A Tribute to Winston Zeddmore

Posted under: Movies, TV and Anime
By: Phil on October 30, 2007 at 11:04 am

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There is one thing missing from the above Ghostbusters poster. Can you figure it out? That’s right, there is no Winston Zeddmore involved in any way, shape, or form on that sheet. It doesn’t even have “starring Ernie Hudson” written anywhere on there.

Not many people know this, but Winston Zeddmore is actually the fourth Ghostbuster. You wouldn’t know that, considering he’s not on the movie posters. Okay, to be fair he is on the official one sheet of Ghostbusters II, but he wasn’t included on the DVD release of the movie. Also, if you have ever caught the movie on TV before, like on Comedy Central, you’ll notice he gets cropped out of the frame quite often. If there is ever a shot that shows all four Ghostbusters, they’ll usually choose to crop the image where Winston is normally standing.

Take for example, his big scene in Ghostbusters II, where he gets ran over by a ghost train. Leading up to that moment, they crop him out until they finally have to show him since this is his big scene in the movie. I can’t believe him getting run over by a ghost train is his big scene. That and him getting into a fight with Ray after they fall into the river of slime. Both scenes involve him being a big pussy.

That isn’t to say that Winston doesn’t have some great scenes in both movies. He actually has what is one of my favorite exchanges in the entire movie with Ray.

Winston Zeddemore: Hey Ray. Do you remember something in the bible about the last days when the dead would rise from the grave?
Dr Ray Stantz: I remember Revelations 7:12…And I looked, and he opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake. And the sun became as black as sack cloth, and the moon became as blood.”
Winston Zeddemore: “And the seas boiled and the skies fell.”
Dr Ray Stantz: Judgement day.
Winston Zeddemore: Judgement day.
Dr Ray Stantz: Every ancient religion has its own myth about the end of the world.
Winston Zeddemore: Myth? Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we’ve been so busy lately is ’cause the dead HAVE been rising from the grave?
Dr Ray Stantz: How ’bout a little music?
Winston Zeddemore: Yeah.

Winston figureFor whatever reason, when I was a kid and Ghostbusters were at the height of their popularity, Winston was my favorite member of the team. I’ll never forget the day my Mom took me to Toys R Us and let me pick out my first Ghostbusters action figure. I remember seeing a whole wall of every imaginable Ghostbusters figure and being blown away. Of all the characters I could pick from, I chose Winston, and I picked him because he is that awesome.

I think one of my most favorite Winston moments as a kid is during the Super Mario Brothers Super Show (SMBSS). Yeah I’m not kidding around. By the time the SMBSS was on, the Ghostbusters popularity had died down greatly. By this point, the Ninja Turtles were pretty much the best thing in the universe. Anyway, the SMBSS had these terrible live action segments that I couldn’t stand, even when I was a kid. There is one episode where Mario and Luigi get attacked by a ghost, and only one man can save the day. Ernie Hudson.

I love the fact that he is Ernie Hudson in this clip, and not Winston. This basically means that in real life, Ernie Hudson is a real Ghostbuster. I don’t see Bill Murray or Harold Ramis coming to save the day now do I? As far as I’m concerned, teaming up Mario and Luigi with Ernie Hudson is basically one of the most amazing crossovers ever conceived. This will always be my favorite segment from what is otherwise an almost unwatchable mess. Actually, it’s pretty amazing just how terrible that show was, I still don’t understand who thought those segments were a good idea.

It turns out I’m not the only one who thinks Winston hasn’t gotten the credit he deserves. In the following clip, this dude put together a Ghostbusters trailer that is all about Winston, and I love it.

There isn’t much more I can say. Ernie Hudson/Winston Zeddmore, I salute you.

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Comment by liquidefy

October 30, 2007 @ 11:45 am

AYAHHAHAHAHAA I didn’t know Winston was your favorite! HAHAHAHHAH dude. If you go around asking people to name all the ghostbusters, I bet most of them would forget Winston. Well, maybe they’d remember Winston but probably not his last name. I love Winston too man. The Ghostbusters wouldn’t be same without him.

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Comment by Johnny Manf

October 30, 2007 @ 1:10 pm

I love how they imply the arms coming out of the chair grabbing Sigourney Weaver are actually Winston. HAHAHAHHAHAHA

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Comment by JW_Number_ONE

October 30, 2007 @ 6:49 pm

Man, I’m glad this tribute was given since we were doing Winston lines all night during the Halloween party..

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Comment by phantomspiker

October 30, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

what is the reasoning behind cutting him out?

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Comment by Phil

October 30, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

you know Phantom, they would probably deny it until they’re blue in the face, but I’m willing to bet because he’s black.

And yes, this tribute is long over due.

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Comment by Powerdusk

October 30, 2007 @ 9:28 pm

When was the movie made again? like in the 80’s?!
Jeez, I’m surprised they managed to pull that off without getting sued…yet…

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Comment by josephmcklay

October 30, 2007 @ 10:21 pm

That reminds me of all the Ghostbusters video games. Most of them always show three Ghostbusters, all of them white. That’s pretty bizarre.

As for the movies, I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt on his being cropped out. After all, he simply doesn’t have as many lines as most of the other characters in the first film. Also, I find the pan-and-scan in Ghostbusters 1 and 2 to be incredibly obnoxious in general.

But yeah, Winston is definitely cool. At least he had a bigger role in the cartoon. Although, I heard an incredibly sad story that Ernie Hudson actually tried out for his cartoon counterpart and was denied in favor of Arsenio Hall. Come on, he was the only one who actually wanted to be in the show!

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Comment by Phil

October 31, 2007 @ 9:35 am

@ josephmcklay

First off, I never knew that Arsenio was Winston in the cartoon. Good call on that one! I looked up what you said and it has to be true. I can’t believe they would deny Ernie Hudson to do the roll. I guess they wanted someone who was more hip/cool at the time. Whatever, those idiots.

I also saw this which I thought was ironic/funny.

“Lorenzo Music first supplied the voice for Peter Venkman who was played by Bill Murray in the films. Reportedly, Murray did not like that his character sounded like Garfield and the producers replaced Music with Dave Coulier. Music did provide the voice of Garfield until his death. Bill Murray later supplied the voice for Garfield in Garfield (2004).”

The whole Garfield thing is the ironic part. I remember when they changed Venkman’s voice and just thinking it was some impostor. I was right, Dave Coulier is an impostor and should stick to doing bad Bullwinkle and Popeye impressions.

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Comment by josephmcklay

October 31, 2007 @ 4:42 pm

You know, I don’t think I ever noticed the voice change when I was a kid. I was pretty young when I would have watched the cartoon in its original airing though…but I found some episodes on Youtube, and the Coulier voice is glaringly annoying. You can just imagine Venkman going “Now Cut…it…out!” like Joey Gladstone.

Fun fact, not only was he an imposter Venkman, but an imposter Muppet baby as well. He took over Howie Mandel’s roles as Animal, Bunsen and Bean Bunny.

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Comment by liquidefy

October 31, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

hahaha, that is terrible. Uncle Joey should be a whore daddy

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Comment by Johnny Manf

October 31, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

you should have put a digg link on this one. the comments are on fire.

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Comment by Ganklin

November 1, 2007 @ 12:12 am

come on, winston was not cut or underplayed because he was black. in fact the part was written for eddie murphy, but he didn’t take the part and the role was scaled back by a lot. i think winston was originally supposed to have been introduced much earlier on. even after murphy didn’t sign on, i remember reading that they wanted to keep the role in there because they wanted to show that the ghostbusters were being stretched beyond their means.

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Comment by josephmcklay

November 1, 2007 @ 1:03 am

Yeah, that’s true about Eddie Murphy. It would have been a much different movie had he decided to do it.

I also read somewhere that when the original concept was to have just Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi as the Ghostbusters, the idea was way different. They went around fighting demons in alternate dimensions and stuff.

Well, I really can’t imagine Ghostbusters any other way. The guys really play off each other quite well, and really, Venkman is one of the best comedy characters in any movie.

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Comment by Phil

November 1, 2007 @ 8:24 am

I remember the whole Eddie Murphy thing, but I thought they wanted to introduce him in Ghostbusters 2? I didn’t know they wanted him involved since the original.

Wow, never knew I’d learn so many facts from this. And anything Joey Gladstone is involved with automatically makes it an impostor. Hahahah.

I just wiki-ed it and it all seems true. Man, they wanted Pee Wee Herman to be Gozer and they also wanted John Candy to be a Ghostbuster. Cool stuff.